Ethical Rat Breeders, and Breeding Info
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007, 12:19 pm
khep: Do You Just Run Away?
I am not a rat breeder currently, but I am doing a load of research in the meantime! I'm also new to this community, and have a question for you...
One of the most BEAUTIFUL rats I have ever seen was for adoption in a pet store. It was a little Mom and Pop seeming pet store, and I walked in while waiting for a bus. The rat was an adult male dumbo, with a stunning orange coat. The closest I have come to finding a coat like it would be an Aussie Cinnamon or Fawn coat, but it was more of a light bright orange than either, and it stood out. I don't know how to descibe it exactly, but *gorgeous*. If you wanted to work with the color of that rat, would you have ever used it (a pet store/rescue adoptee) as a sire, or would you have just gnawed at your wrists a little bit and run away?
I fully understand wanting to breed pairs with known lineage, and good temperment, and good health, and absolutely support that- but I'm curious. What would you do? :)
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 08:15 pm (UTC)
I would honestly suggest, attend a few shows, and do more research before jumping into breeding, esp since within reasonable driving you have a great, established local rat community. Also even if we Oregon breeders don't have what you want, many of the good WA breeders will deliver to Portland too!
If only you'd taken a picture! What petstore was this rat at?
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC)
I won't be jumping into breeding, no worries. I will probably be researching for the next few months, and if breeding occurs down the line, it will be after a lot of further thought, setting up, making sure, more research, possible pre-planned placement, etc.
I wish I had taken a picture too! Rawr! It was at a little pet store on a back road in Beaverton. It was a corner store, and I think the title may have included the name of the street it was on, but I'm not sure- (that sort of small pet store). I know where it is though, off upper Cornell Rd.
So how do you go go the rat shows without coming home with a billion new family members? The force is strong with you? ;)
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 08:54 pm (UTC)
Was the petstore by the thriftway in Cedar Hills? If so, I know that store. I bought Albeniy from there in '98, and my first dumbo, and rex (Lillei) there in '00 I believe? This was before I was online, and before most the breeders in the NW were breeding!
My friend used to work there, and is the main reason that store did such a great job. She's a dog person, and helped them clean up the place. I've not been there to visit in atleast 4 years, but used to work at the saturday market acrossed the street from them, and would visit there weekly.
Most breeders never have rats available for placement at shows, only deliver pre reserved rats. Reputable breeders rarely have rats available at shows, because the waitlist for their litters is so dense! It's really not common to see rats available for placement at RatsPac shows, but some breeders do have available kiddos because they breed FOR shows (Since they live in BFE with few adopters), but generally those aren't types of rats I breed for, want, or need.
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 08:59 pm (UTC)
No, the petstore is closer to Cornell and Murray, I believe- a few blocks away from the Sunset high school?
As for the shows- goood, gooodd... it would be dangerous otherwise ;)
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
I don't know where that is... but I know the store I'm thinking is off Cornell. Acrossed the street from the Hi school pharmacy or whatever.
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:08 pm (UTC)
Was it the *huge* PetSmart in Cedar Hills? :)
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
When I lived there, Cedar Hills didn't have a petsmart, or petco..... I haven't been that way in over 4 years though, and haven't lived there since '01!
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
It's amazing how much everything has changed! I left in '00, came back in '02? and the amount of building that has happened everywhere is amazing. Things are changing all over the place. I don't go to Beaverton too often, but when I do there's normally something new- just from in between trips!
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
Yea, I had to go to Forest Grove last year, and drove through Cornelius... OMG a totally differnt world!!
Nothing was the same, not even the Safeway in Forest Grove! LOL
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:19 pm (UTC)
And it was a little family owned shop too. Not a commercial store. In the same complex as the Thriftway grocery store, or whatever it's called!
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:21 pm (UTC)
Ooo address of the thriftway is: 12675 NW Cornell Road
The petstore I knew of, was attached to that :) It may not still be there, *BUT* last time I was there, in like '03 they had minks, and cinnamons. Likely out of Khatz Rats lines.
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
OH! Called The Pet Barn! I love google ;0P Somewhere I have pics of Albeniy, and Lillei. Both born and raised there. Like I said, this was before there WAS a local rat club, and breeders locally so I had no choice and didn't know better ;0P
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:24 pm (UTC)
Do you think as far as pet stores go that you'd be more open to adopting from there again?
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:29 pm (UTC)
Honestly, I have no REASON to buy from stores.... I have access to quality lines, and can get rats from pretty much any US breeder I'd like to.
Unless they had something extra special (new gene).... but in my case, there is nothing more I want. I have all the rats I want/need, and for out crosses, why would I want, or need to fly blind with unknowns? Why 'ruin' years of hardwork, but adding unknown ingredients to the pot?
I'd rather breed rats from fellow breeders who have the same beliefs, and ethics as I do. At this point, I have no need, wish, or desire to breed unknown rats from local stores. There is nothing they can add to my rats at this point, compared to other breeders, pedigreed, known stock.
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:33 pm (UTC)
As far as any US breeder goes, how do you feel about having rats shipped? Or do you find a way for others to help transport them from other states a different way?
Tue, Jun. 5th, 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
I have no issue with shipping. I've shipped rats, am going to ship rats, and have plans to ship rats in the rather nearish future.
In the past, I've mostly done road trips, but that was prekid when I was young, active, and a 17+ hour drive was nothing for me ;0P